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Actress Iris Berben says about herself: "I work through my emotionality and sensuality - the rational comes later ..."
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Joie de vivre & curiosity

She is always on fire. Wide awake, passionate and curious. No matter what she talks about. She also listens carefully. Her eyes are alive, warm. Iris Berben , 63, looks for words, good explanations, is thoughtful and serious. But then suddenly she bursts into loud laughter. It comes from the bottom of my heart. She only becomes quiet and reserved when it comes to her private happiness. Your relationship with

Heiko Kiesow, 53, is a protected habitat. And it should stay that way. The stuntman Iris Berben met in 2006 during filming in Africa. More she reveals in the MEINS interview to the new film epic "The Wagner clan. A Family History "(ZDF, 23.2., 8.15 pm), about her son Oliver Berben, 42, who also produced this film. He is the most important man in her life.

They shine again in a great character compartment: Cosima Wagner and her life after the death of her husband Richard. What makes such a difficult role with you?

"I do not carry such a role home, it occupies me as a figure, and you try to deal with the time and the contemporary history in which it took place, so also with the topic of anti-Semitism: It was not the anti-Semitism of annihilation, We talk about it today, it was an accepted and lived anti-Semitism in society! But there were also people who behaved differently! The question is: How is someone like that? "

Is Cosima Wagner alien to you?

She is of a hardness and strategy that is far from my point of view of women, especially mothers, the coldness she uses to bring up her children, and today she would be called the perfect PR manager The topic of our film is: What happened to the family after Wagner's death? "

Do you believe in a life after death?

"No, I do not think there's any way to go on after death, it gives me some rest, I can handle that, I say, that's how it is, end, point!"

You often work with your son Oliver. How do you see his development?

"We never had to fight to get away from each other, Oliver spent the last three years of boarding school - he wanted it that way - and I think that's what's happening to others in combat, of course It was nice to see him growing up with children from all over the world, and today he is Managing Director of Constantin Film, and I almost have to ask for an audience if I want to see him! He's hard-working, self-confident, and passionate about everything he does. "

Could you always let your son go?

"Yes, because I became self-employed very early, also through my parents' divorce, but I did not feel it was a deficit, it's good to treat a young person as a respectful person at an early age Certainly Oliver has - as I experienced it with my mother - a life-style or life melody heard of me, characterized by a wide view, curiosity, openness and the desire to always stay in search. "

Can you and your son talk openly with each other?

"Yes, I was a single mother for four years, and we've always had a close relationship, there was not and there's no topic we can not talk about openly with, I had that complete openness with my mother, and I know that Oliver passed on. "

To love is to be able to accept criticism without being hurt ...

We are also similar in our impatience and in the non-sticking ability of criticism. (Laughs) Unlike Oliver, I find my impatience as something beneficial! Oliver would like the impatience a bit But I was the same at his age, I am calmer today, do not let things get that close to me. "

Do you have an example?

"I am no longer prepared to compromise politeness, I do not want to steal from others any more time."

Where do you feel good today?

"I like to meet people who give me a new perspective on the world or who manage to surprise me with a conversation, so I have to think again, which I find exciting What else do I want to allow? "

Are you grateful for having experienced so many and so different times?

"Yes, and what a powerful, wonderful opportunity we women have today to find fulfillment, I'm privileged: I know that many people do not practice a profession that matches their passion!"

Do you rather allow yourself to show weaknesses today?

If there's anything nice about age, that's it! I do not want to be any other than I am today, I know what I need - and I recognize who wants to impose something on me. I ask a lot more questions today as a young person you know everything better, but often it's just cheeky, stupid and provocative! Today this does not tear my legs off anymore, if I can not do something or do not reach. "

Which niches of peace and relaxation do you have?

There, where I am unrecognized and amazed simply "can gawk." (Laughs) Nature, but also a busy city, it's good to see new pictures and step out of my own center! I can not lie on the beach . "

How do you combine work and social engagement with your partnership?

"I have a partner who knows my job, he knows the unpredictable nature of this job and how hard it is to plan carefully, I need a sheltered space, just as my family is the sheltered space that I want and need to have . "

Vanity theme: How vain are you, Mrs. Berben?

"We're in a big competition, but vanity has more of an impact on my content: I'm vain with what I want to shoot, not missionary, or because I want to improve the world, but that's my claim on myself. But I too can never quite break with vanity and wanting to please, it's a nice feeling to be admired and complimented. "

Do you keep fit with sports?

"No, not a sport, I'm a Hippel, I can not sit still and I always have to run around, I have a lot of discipline in my job, but in private life, I can not do it! I've done it a hundred times, something more for the body I'm one of the women who prefers to dress smartly - and continues to enjoy eating and enjoying - life, sensuality and enjoyment should not be neglected - I'm a delectable person - one hundred percent! "

Where do you get your energy from?

"I think I'm a person who lives energetic lives, I'm fine when I can do something, I think that's a way of life and a way to live a lot and be open to a lot of things Not to plan everything, but to see what's coming ... "

Do you love your life as it is?

"I think it has to do with the desire to live and the desire to shape the environment, whether this is a political shape, what we have achieved in our democracy - namely, that we are allowed to, may, should Whether it's the artistic or the choice of other ways of life, it's exciting to get involved in it, and yes, I like to live in. Each of us has experienced impacts and knows when it hurts and when it does I'm aware of that and it's part of having to endure the pain and the loss. "

Have you always had that zest for life?

"As a very young person, I was rather confused, I did not find the answers to life, but that's a well-known condition when you're still young." Today I say: Life as a life is enough for me, I face life. Want to be awake and participate, as long as it allows the mental and physical forces, that's a lot! "

How important is the actor's profession for you today?

"It is a gift that today we have the opportunity to tell other stories, and that it is no longer an exception to find 50, 60 or 70 substances that interest many people."

Will you still be better?

"Yes, I think so, you get more accurate, you know more, the nuances change, yes, you get better."

What is the most important thing for you?

"I care about my very small, very important circle of my family and friends, which I protect as well, and it is still important to me that I can and should make decisions, I always wanted a self-determined life and that's what I have."

What is luck for you?

"Happiness are the moments when everything fits, whether it's the work, your own feeling or a place, it can be a wonderful conversation, a look at a line of text where you find out: how good, it's a confirmation of my thoughts 'I feel and feel the same as the author.'

How do you differentiate between good and evil? Do you have a good knowledge of human nature?

(Knocks on his stomach and laughs) "He never lets me down, I do not know, does that have anything to do with life experience, maybe because I do not know if that's how it has always been, I'm listening to my gut feeling I am a good friend of my gut, he sends me good signals, I would never want to turn my mind off, but the belly is the first instance. "

What annoys you, what brings you today to the palm?

"Stupidity always annoys! Rudeness! Sounds old-fashioned, but bad manners annoy me! Disrespect!"

Do you still have dreams?

"Yeah, sure: I still dream of being immortal! I do not have the recipe yet. (Laughs) No, that's just a metaphor for how much I enjoy living! I wish to stay awake and curious be on what life still offers me ... "

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